Both wrestlers, known for their charisma and in-ring skills, were dissatisfied with their creative direction and perceived lack of opportunities for growth. Matt Cardona, formerly known as Zack Ryder, had a successful run in the independent wrestling scene, gaining recognition for his high-flying style and comedic timing. He even achieved a major milestone by winning the NWA World Heavyweight Championship.

Cardona then went on to discuss Cody’s journey in AEW. He highlighted the importance of building a strong foundation and the role of the “All Elite” brand in attracting talent. “It’s not just about the money,” Cardona explained.

Advertisement Cardona was also asked how many titles he’s held from different wrestling promotions since leaving WWE, with him claiming he doesn’t even know which companies some of the championships belong to and that he’s begged promoters to stop giving him titles. If you use any of the quotes in this article, please credit “Dr. Beau Hightower” with a h/t to Wrestling Inc. for the transcription.